Comments on: What the Wiki is Happening? A Blank Wall, Free Spray Paint, and …. http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the/ Alan Levine's space for barking about and playing with technology Fri, 25 May 2012 14:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Scott Leslie http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the/comment-page-1/#comment-612 Scott Leslie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the-wiki-is-happening-a-blank-wall-free-spray-paint-and/#comment-612 Are there not perhaps other lessons to draw from the lack of contributions to the wiki other than we are all lazy or busy? Could it be that asking a bunch of bloggers to use a wiki runs counter to their need to possess/publish their *own* words? Could it be that wiki spaces that are already somewhat well populated intimidate people from adding to them, especially when they're to be used for a presentation? Could it be that a wiki is just another technology like a disucssion board, and similar to a dicussion board can flop for many reasons, none of them having to do with it being a wiki? What's interesting to me is that the discussion topic has been framed around whether using centralized or decentralized approaches is the right way, and yet the presentation itself, and the technologies supporting it, seem to me to clearly already have decided that using 'loosely coupled' or decentralized technologies is the best approach, and rather than promoting debate are themselves *advocating* for this approach. Is this tension, between debate and advocacy, possibly not also one of the reasons for the phenomenom you're commenting on? Just a thought, now I'd better go add something to the wiki ;-) Cheers, Scott. Are there not perhaps other lessons to draw from the lack of contributions to the wiki other than we are all lazy or busy? Could it be that asking a bunch of bloggers to use a wiki runs counter to their need to possess/publish their *own* words? Could it be that wiki spaces that are already somewhat well populated intimidate people from adding to them, especially when they’re to be used for a presentation? Could it be that a wiki is just another technology like a disucssion board, and similar to a dicussion board can flop for many reasons, none of them having to do with it being a wiki?

What’s interesting to me is that the discussion topic has been framed around whether using centralized or decentralized approaches is the right way, and yet the presentation itself, and the technologies supporting it, seem to me to clearly already have decided that using ‘loosely coupled’ or decentralized technologies is the best approach, and rather than promoting debate are themselves *advocating* for this approach. Is this tension, between debate and advocacy, possibly not also one of the reasons for the phenomenom you’re commenting on?

Just a thought, now I’d better go add something to the wiki ;-) Cheers, Scott.

]]> By: Alan Levine http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the/comment-page-1/#comment-613 Alan Levine Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the-wiki-is-happening-a-blank-wall-free-spray-paint-and/#comment-613 Ahh, you nailed us, Scott. Sure the "topic" chosen conflicts with our approach, but the point is not to really decided if centralists or de-centralists is better, but to play the game. We chose s stupid topic just to polarize people. It looks like you could have done which is better, Blogs, Wikis, or CMS-es? or Mac vs PC vc Linux? or Coke vs Pepsi vs Dr Pepper?? Ahh, you nailed us, Scott. Sure the “topic” chosen conflicts with our approach, but the point is not to really decided if centralists or de-centralists is better, but to play the game. We chose s stupid topic just to polarize people.

It looks like you could have done which is better, Blogs, Wikis, or CMS-es? or Mac vs PC vc Linux? or Coke vs Pepsi vs Dr Pepper??

]]> By: Scott Leslie http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the/comment-page-1/#comment-614 Scott Leslie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the-wiki-is-happening-a-blank-wall-free-spray-paint-and/#comment-614 Clearly you're joking Alan; who could argue that there's anything better that using a CMS on a PC while drinking a Coke! Clearly you’re joking Alan; who could argue that there’s anything better that using a CMS on a PC while drinking a Coke!

]]> By: Seb http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the/comment-page-1/#comment-615 Seb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the-wiki-is-happening-a-blank-wall-free-spray-paint-and/#comment-615 I think wikis are so hard to take off that the right question to ask is, why _should_ it happen? I think wikis are so hard to take off that the right question to ask is, why _should_ it happen?

]]> By: Frank Carver's weblog http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the/comment-page-1/#comment-616 Frank Carver's weblog Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2004/06/08/what-the-wiki-is-happening-a-blank-wall-free-spray-paint-and/#comment-616 <strong>It's so easy to miss the Wiki "sweet spot"</strong> <p>I've been silently following the progress of the <a href='http://www.nmc.org/events/2004summerconf/index.shtml'>NMC 2004</a> Wiki/blog/presentation/project (What it actually is, defies description). As a long-time Wiki fan, blogger, and educator I h...</p> It’s so easy to miss the Wiki “sweet spot”

I’ve been silently following the progress of the NMC 2004 Wiki/blog/presentation/project (What it actually is, defies description). As a long-time Wiki fan, blogger, and educator I h…

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