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	<title>Comments on: Irony: Blogs/Expert-Centric Views to Learning/Teacher-Centric Views</title>
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	<description>Alan Levine&#039;s space for barking about and playing with technology</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2004/08/17/irony-blogsexpert/comment-page-1/#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find very little &quot;crap&quot; on my blog. My focus is on helping small-small business find ways to establish and enhance their online presence using credible, proven methods like opt-in email marketing, user-friendly website design, and newer technologies like RSS and blogs. 



If I knew how to &quot;get rich quick&quot; you might find something mentioned there, but considering the state of my bank account, it&#039;s obvious I don&#039;t. Hence, no references to get rich quick, thank you very much. eBay, on the other hand. . .:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find very little &#8220;crap&#8221; on my blog. My focus is on helping small-small business find ways to establish and enhance their online presence using credible, proven methods like opt-in email marketing, user-friendly website design, and newer technologies like RSS and blogs. </p>
<p>If I knew how to &#8220;get rich quick&#8221; you might find something mentioned there, but considering the state of my bank account, it&#8217;s obvious I don&#8217;t. Hence, no references to get rich quick, thank you very much. eBay, on the other hand. . .:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2004/08/17/irony-blogsexpert/comment-page-1/#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul- excuse my hasty writing, trying to blog a quarter-baked idea trying to get out of my house on time to be late for work.... I should not have written it to insinuate your marketing blog has the &quot;reek&quot;, and massaged my wording a bit (ugh,. the slap of post blog revisionism, oh well).



I have a quick reflex to people I perceive who cannot look at a thioing such as the internet without seeing it only as a way to make a buck, much the same as I see real estate developers who cannot look at a mountain and see it as a place to bull doze, pave, and cover with strip malls.



Again, I am not saying you are in any camp.



However, my main point is the pitfall of promoting blogs as a &quot;power to the people&quot; thiing, and then resorting to the blog experts to characterize it.



But wow, does Trackback work fast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul- excuse my hasty writing, trying to blog a quarter-baked idea trying to get out of my house on time to be late for work&#8230;. I should not have written it to insinuate your marketing blog has the &#8220;reek&#8221;, and massaged my wording a bit (ugh,. the slap of post blog revisionism, oh well).</p>
<p>I have a quick reflex to people I perceive who cannot look at a thioing such as the internet without seeing it only as a way to make a buck, much the same as I see real estate developers who cannot look at a mountain and see it as a place to bull doze, pave, and cover with strip malls.</p>
<p>Again, I am not saying you are in any camp.</p>
<p>However, my main point is the pitfall of promoting blogs as a &#8220;power to the people&#8221; thiing, and then resorting to the blog experts to characterize it.</p>
<p>But wow, does Trackback work fast!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Carver</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2004/08/17/irony-blogsexpert/comment-page-1/#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote: It occurred that the decision, the design to create these were completely teacher/institution initiated based on... what? It seems that learners have no influence, input ...



To me this is a symptom of a much greater issue. In my discussions with &quot;learners&quot; (used in the most general form) I&#039;m finding more and more that they don&#039;t want institutions, courses and &quot;teachers&quot; at all. They just want to learn what they need and to the job done.  Only the iron grip of qualifications and their certification bodies drags learners back to institutions.



Maybe my experience is disheartening, but virtually none of the students I encounter at educational institutions are there for the learning. It&#039;s always just the qualifications. Real, broad, pervasive learning happens elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote: It occurred that the decision, the design to create these were completely teacher/institution initiated based on&#8230; what? It seems that learners have no influence, input &#8230;</p>
<p>To me this is a symptom of a much greater issue. In my discussions with &#8220;learners&#8221; (used in the most general form) I&#8217;m finding more and more that they don&#8217;t want institutions, courses and &#8220;teachers&#8221; at all. They just want to learn what they need and to the job done.  Only the iron grip of qualifications and their certification bodies drags learners back to institutions.</p>
<p>Maybe my experience is disheartening, but virtually none of the students I encounter at educational institutions are there for the learning. It&#8217;s always just the qualifications. Real, broad, pervasive learning happens elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Emerging Perceptions</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2004/08/17/irony-blogsexpert/comment-page-1/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Emerging Perceptions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Experts vs Everyone Else&lt;/strong&gt;

Alan has a good point about the Irony of always leaning on the experts whenever we do things. I am one of the regular bloggers with little to no readership that Alan contrasts the experts against. One of the reasons...
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<p>Alan has a good point about the Irony of always leaning on the experts whenever we do things. I am one of the regular bloggers with little to no readership that Alan contrasts the experts against. One of the reasons&#8230;</p>
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