Comments on: Odeo, Duh http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/ Alan Levine's space for barking about and playing with technology Fri, 25 May 2012 14:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Chris L http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3478 Chris L Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:25:55 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3478 Well-- that's just bizarre! I had no idea they were connected and the discrepancy is even odder. Will have to dig some more. Hope your podcasting presentation is/was stellar! Well– that’s just bizarre! I had no idea they were connected and the discrepancy is even odder. Will have to dig some more.

Hope your podcasting presentation is/was stellar!

]]> By: Alan http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3476 Alan Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:56:05 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3476 Makes sense Chris- I had just played more recently with Odeo. But here is what is interesting, when I went to Audioblogger to create an account, iy already existed, and was tied to Odeo, and uses the same number as Odeo == SO THEY ARE THEY SAME SERVICE! weird , eh? Why would one then have a 3 minute limit and the other 5? Makes sense Chris- I had just played more recently with Odeo.

But here is what is interesting, when I went to Audioblogger to create an account, iy already existed, and was tied to Odeo, and uses the same number as Odeo == SO THEY ARE THEY SAME SERVICE!

weird , eh? Why would one then have a 3 minute limit and the other 5?

]]> By: Chris L http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3475 Chris L Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:59:07 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3475 Shorter is better, but then why not limit to two minutes or 30 seconds? In my teaching of podcasting I find the sweetspot to be around 7 minutes. Unfortunately, none of the "press the internet button and record" or "call on the phone" solutions work at that length. Most of my students already have Blogger blogs (that being part of the demo), so I prefer 5 minutes and audioblogger for the moment-- and it saves an intervening linking step since it is posted automatically. Shorter is better, but then why not limit to two minutes or 30 seconds? In my teaching of podcasting I find the sweetspot to be around 7 minutes. Unfortunately, none of the “press the internet button and record” or “call on the phone” solutions work at that length.

Most of my students already have Blogger blogs (that being part of the demo), so I prefer 5 minutes and audioblogger for the moment– and it saves an intervening linking step since it is posted automatically.

]]> By: Cole http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3446 Cole Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:08:21 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3446 That was the number one comment I got from my students -- "3 minutes was too short, but it made us think and work harder." That is where the good stuff happens. BTW, this was the second "Discussion Activity" we did during the semester and my TA and I noted a couple fo things, more students did the audio version, the scores were generally higher on them, and this is the one that stunned me, my TA said the audio was much easier (and faster) to grade. We are going to have them post a response to two other questions like this and perhaps have them podcast a project status review. BTW, this is an introductory freshman course. That was the number one comment I got from my students — “3 minutes was too short, but it made us think and work harder.” That is where the good stuff happens. BTW, this was the second “Discussion Activity” we did during the semester and my TA and I noted a couple fo things, more students did the audio version, the scores were generally higher on them, and this is the one that stunned me, my TA said the audio was much easier (and faster) to grade. We are going to have them post a response to two other questions like this and perhaps have them podcast a project status review. BTW, this is an introductory freshman course.

]]> By: Alan http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3443 Alan Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:57:23 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3443 Wow, Cole, this is utterly fantastic, and definitely something I will use in my demos. You achieve the same result in terms of audio discussions mostly with a blog and the free Odeo service, what one of colleges has not got going with their expensive copy of Wimba. It seems appropriate type of activity for a 3 minute recording-- anyone can turn on a microphone and blabber for 50 minutes, but you have to design and plan to do a 3 minute gig- to paraphrase "I would have recorded a shorter podcast if I had more time". Wow, Cole, this is utterly fantastic, and definitely something I will use in my demos. You achieve the same result in terms of audio discussions mostly with a blog and the free Odeo service, what one of colleges has not got going with their expensive copy of Wimba.

It seems appropriate type of activity for a 3 minute recording– anyone can turn on a microphone and blabber for 50 minutes, but you have to design and plan to do a 3 minute gig- to paraphrase “I would have recorded a shorter podcast if I had more time”.

]]> By: Cole http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3442 Cole Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:23:33 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3442 The phone posting is killer ... it sort of goes with what I see in my classes ... ALL students have ceel phones -- that is a big ALL. Imagine if you combine phone posting, SMS messages, and peer responses with this thing! I have lots of thoughts about this rolling around in my head ... I'll share when I can solidify them a bit. I used it with my students just a couple of weeks ago: http://blogs.3c.ist.psu.edu/camplese/?p=30 The phone posting is killer … it sort of goes with what I see in my classes … ALL students have ceel phones — that is a big ALL. Imagine if you combine phone posting, SMS messages, and peer responses with this thing! I have lots of thoughts about this rolling around in my head … I’ll share when I can solidify them a bit. I used it with my students just a couple of weeks ago:

http://blogs.3c.ist.psu.edu/camplese/?p=30

]]> By: Chris L http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3440 Chris L Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:24:33 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3440 If you can live with the time restrictions, then it's somewhat interesting. We're looking at using Odeo for blogs in support of cultural education where three minutes is plenty of time to hear a snippet of Yupik eskimo and a short audio presentation of what the word means, relationship to English, etc. That being said, I mainly refer to Odeo as a directory because three minutes just ain't enough. Of course any blogger user can blog by phone for free (well, toll charges apply) and with up to 5 minutes per post with <a href="http://www.audioblogger.com/" rel="nofollow">audioblogger</a>! If you can live with the time restrictions, then it’s somewhat interesting. We’re looking at using Odeo for blogs in support of cultural education where three minutes is plenty of time to hear a snippet of Yupik eskimo and a short audio presentation of what the word means, relationship to English, etc.

That being said, I mainly refer to Odeo as a directory because three minutes just ain’t enough.

Of course any blogger user can blog by phone for free (well, toll charges apply) and with up to 5 minutes per post with audioblogger!

]]> By: Brian http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/comment-page-1/#comment-3436 Brian Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:07:07 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2006/02/22/odeo-duh/#comment-3436 One thing that's cool about this is that you can post via telephone -- when I tell audiences they can podcast without a computer, that's an attention getter. Maybe you can open with a reprise of your cell-phone comedy routine? One thing that’s cool about this is that you can post via telephone — when I tell audiences they can podcast without a computer, that’s an attention getter.

Maybe you can open with a reprise of your cell-phone comedy routine?

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