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	<title>Comments on: Audio Casting Setup</title>
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		<title>By: NMC Campus Observer &#187; Presenting in RL/SL</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/audio-casting-setup/comment-page-1/#comment-21107</link>
		<dc:creator>NMC Campus Observer &#187; Presenting in RL/SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To begin, what we did was to use my the input microphone of me MacBookPro, NiceCast software, and our streaming audio server to send audio from Atlanta into SL (see more details on our audio casting set up). A piece of the overload is that there is a 12-18 second lag between what&#8217;s said here and what is heard in world. Fortunately, my colleague Ninmah Ash was monitoring the chat. Sorry for anyone that had audio troubles. Attached to this post is our audio recording, and soon we will post a chat log transcript. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To begin, what we did was to use my the input microphone of me MacBookPro, NiceCast software, and our streaming audio server to send audio from Atlanta into SL (see more details on our audio casting set up). A piece of the overload is that there is a 12-18 second lag between what&#8217;s said here and what is heard in world. Fortunately, my colleague Ninmah Ash was monitoring the chat. Sorry for anyone that had audio troubles. Attached to this post is our audio recording, and soon we will post a chat log transcript. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/audio-casting-setup/comment-page-1/#comment-16926</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alex (I think- you speak in a bit of code). 

Happy holidays. I think I will be working on becoming more blond or more 22 in one of my lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alex (I think- you speak in a bit of code). </p>
<p>Happy holidays. I think I will be working on becoming more blond or more 22 in one of my lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hayes</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/audio-casting-setup/comment-page-1/#comment-16818</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m counting down the minutes to escape the confines of this office I posit that the only mistake you made Alan was to declare that you ( CogDog) were going to do a live event in Second Life.

What amazes me ( continuousness ) is web 2.0 sliding quickly into virtual web 3.0. I had a conversation with a colleague last night about SL and we came to the conclusion that if  SL could punch it&#039;s way back into the rarified climes and blogs of the yesteryear then maybe SL would  have a little more buy in.

It threatens some and will alienate others. Afterall who wants to converse with a fat, frumpy, misguided avatar on the verge of a total digital collapse. I&#039;m struggling still to find reasons why I need to be anything other than a tall blonde 22 year old in SL entertaining deviant professors and revealing the code behind the character just to shock them back into virtuosness.

Dont be taken aback ie ppps. or perhaps you too can remember that time when chairs were designed to actually fit perfectly under tables whilst we sat in groups, smoked cones and told stories about nuthingness.

Bananas are still better than meat.

http://alexanderhayesblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/thank-you-groups-networks.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m counting down the minutes to escape the confines of this office I posit that the only mistake you made Alan was to declare that you ( CogDog) were going to do a live event in Second Life.</p>
<p>What amazes me ( continuousness ) is web 2.0 sliding quickly into virtual web 3.0. I had a conversation with a colleague last night about SL and we came to the conclusion that if  SL could punch it&#8217;s way back into the rarified climes and blogs of the yesteryear then maybe SL would  have a little more buy in.</p>
<p>It threatens some and will alienate others. Afterall who wants to converse with a fat, frumpy, misguided avatar on the verge of a total digital collapse. I&#8217;m struggling still to find reasons why I need to be anything other than a tall blonde 22 year old in SL entertaining deviant professors and revealing the code behind the character just to shock them back into virtuosness.</p>
<p>Dont be taken aback ie ppps. or perhaps you too can remember that time when chairs were designed to actually fit perfectly under tables whilst we sat in groups, smoked cones and told stories about nuthingness.</p>
<p>Bananas are still better than meat.</p>
<p><a href="http://alexanderhayesblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/thank-you-groups-networks.html" rel="nofollow">http://alexanderhayesblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/thank-you-groups-networks.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/audio-casting-setup/comment-page-1/#comment-15638</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, not to get in a leg-lifting pissing match Stephen, and honestly I have learned and gleaned more from your research and publishing then I likely give credit for. But I have no ego stake in being &quot;right&quot; in this case, but prefer to stoke the conversations, and get others to join in. That&#039;s why I lob the links, not to prosecute.

As far as images og people i chairs, the same goes for RL. When I visit universities and colleges, I like to walk the hallways and peek in the doors, and most of the time you can see the same thing. And 99% of our professional gatherings. Not unique at all to SL.

And in SL, the image does not tell the story. It looks frozen, but what you do not see is the intense conversations in the back channel. I know- I was at this event.

I was not trying to prove anything to you or stockpile evidence points. Which you missed in my one example. We cannot go to the teen grid, but we are using the technology to build a parallel, partly connected event. Not the best? You should have been there for the 12 days in October when we ran 34 events, some live, some asynchronous, 15 of them audio archived, many others chat transcripted
http://www.nmc.org/campus/Impact_of_Digital_Media_Symposium_Schedule

But see I can agree to disagree, and still respect your work. I do not have to be &quot;right&quot; and honestly prefer being wrong as I learn more.

p.s. Skype works great, duh. We use it for our regular work,  our international live speakers, we had 5 at a time from Australia. But you get a conference call going, you get the boings and weird echos. We are not asking people to give any money to telcos as we provide a toll free conference call line.

p.p.s. Mayeb someday you will have a 13 year odl daughter if you want someone playing music talking about &quot;humping and sticking banana fruits towatd her taco&quot;? We are not being censors but respecting the requests of an organization that works with and knows kids much better than you and I.

p.p.p.s. I have no idea what you are suggesting at this swipe-- and am rather taken back at a low blow.. Oh, yes, I spend all my time crafting ways to still your liberties, content, and freedom using my commercial wiles- I am sitting in the Porsche I got for doing ths. Sheeeeesh.  Go outside and get some air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not to get in a leg-lifting pissing match Stephen, and honestly I have learned and gleaned more from your research and publishing then I likely give credit for. But I have no ego stake in being &#8220;right&#8221; in this case, but prefer to stoke the conversations, and get others to join in. That&#8217;s why I lob the links, not to prosecute.</p>
<p>As far as images og people i chairs, the same goes for RL. When I visit universities and colleges, I like to walk the hallways and peek in the doors, and most of the time you can see the same thing. And 99% of our professional gatherings. Not unique at all to SL.</p>
<p>And in SL, the image does not tell the story. It looks frozen, but what you do not see is the intense conversations in the back channel. I know- I was at this event.</p>
<p>I was not trying to prove anything to you or stockpile evidence points. Which you missed in my one example. We cannot go to the teen grid, but we are using the technology to build a parallel, partly connected event. Not the best? You should have been there for the 12 days in October when we ran 34 events, some live, some asynchronous, 15 of them audio archived, many others chat transcripted<br />
<a href="http://www.nmc.org/campus/Impact_of_Digital_Media_Symposium_Schedule" rel="nofollow">http://www.nmc.org/campus/Impact_of_Digital_Media_Symposium_Schedule</a></p>
<p>But see I can agree to disagree, and still respect your work. I do not have to be &#8220;right&#8221; and honestly prefer being wrong as I learn more.</p>
<p>p.s. Skype works great, duh. We use it for our regular work,  our international live speakers, we had 5 at a time from Australia. But you get a conference call going, you get the boings and weird echos. We are not asking people to give any money to telcos as we provide a toll free conference call line.</p>
<p>p.p.s. Mayeb someday you will have a 13 year odl daughter if you want someone playing music talking about &#8220;humping and sticking banana fruits towatd her taco&#8221;? We are not being censors but respecting the requests of an organization that works with and knows kids much better than you and I.</p>
<p>p.p.p.s. I have no idea what you are suggesting at this swipe&#8211; and am rather taken back at a low blow.. Oh, yes, I spend all my time crafting ways to still your liberties, content, and freedom using my commercial wiles- I am sitting in the Porsche I got for doing ths. Sheeeeesh.  Go outside and get some air.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Downes</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/audio-casting-setup/comment-page-1/#comment-15635</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, hmmm....

You write, linking to me: &quot;we will all sit in rows of chairs, and listen passively to a lecture… no wait a minute, that’s what some people think happens in there...&quot;

How many times have I seen images like this? 
http://www.simteach.com/wiki/images/b/ba/FifthMeeting.jpg
Oh, more times than I can count. I don&#039;t just make up the stuff I say. I actually do research and report back on what I have seen.

Oh, and what is it that is supposed to prove me wrong? &quot;Actually what is happening is that Henry Jenkins is making a first official in world appearance in visiting the Teen Grid, where the Global Kids Island is hosting an event, A World Fit for Children Festival.&quot;

Which is to say - something that has never happened before, happening in a place where adults (like me) are prohibited - that shows that I was mistaken in my observations?

Disagreement is fine, and of course I don&#039;t expect everybody to agree with me on everything. But the evidence that I am wrong has to be rather better than this. I can come up with an endless stream of photos illustrating my point, while you respond with one inaccessible first-time-ever event.

p.s. Skype works well enough for free, and these days you couldn&#039;t convince me to give money to a telco.

p.p.s. Inappropriate tunes? *sigh* Pretty clear that the users don&#039;t own *this* space...

p.p.p.s. Do you feel yourself sliding into the arms of the commercial web...? Is it your new job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, hmmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>You write, linking to me: &#8220;we will all sit in rows of chairs, and listen passively to a lecture… no wait a minute, that’s what some people think happens in there&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>How many times have I seen images like this?<br />
<a href="http://www.simteach.com/wiki/images/b/ba/FifthMeeting.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.simteach.com/wiki/images/b/ba/FifthMeeting.jpg</a><br />
Oh, more times than I can count. I don&#8217;t just make up the stuff I say. I actually do research and report back on what I have seen.</p>
<p>Oh, and what is it that is supposed to prove me wrong? &#8220;Actually what is happening is that Henry Jenkins is making a first official in world appearance in visiting the Teen Grid, where the Global Kids Island is hosting an event, A World Fit for Children Festival.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is to say &#8211; something that has never happened before, happening in a place where adults (like me) are prohibited &#8211; that shows that I was mistaken in my observations?</p>
<p>Disagreement is fine, and of course I don&#8217;t expect everybody to agree with me on everything. But the evidence that I am wrong has to be rather better than this. I can come up with an endless stream of photos illustrating my point, while you respond with one inaccessible first-time-ever event.</p>
<p>p.s. Skype works well enough for free, and these days you couldn&#8217;t convince me to give money to a telco.</p>
<p>p.p.s. Inappropriate tunes? *sigh* Pretty clear that the users don&#8217;t own *this* space&#8230;</p>
<p>p.p.p.s. Do you feel yourself sliding into the arms of the commercial web&#8230;? Is it your new job?</p>
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