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	<title>Comments on: Way Too High Comment Hurdles</title>
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	<description>Alan Levine&#039;s space for barking about and playing with technology</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-21977</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting in Graham, and best of luck sorting out the spam barriers.

Just remember folks, that the Great and Powerful Google, who publicly pledge &quot;Do No Evil&quot;, provides the entire incentive for spammer&#039;s activity. 

So, as you waste time moderating comments, trying to get captchas or other tools working, or just give up in desperation, that perhaps the Great Google Minds could come up with a scheme that would punish forever a bestiality site that inserts links to itself in some poor educators blog. That is evil in my book.

Someone really needs to start a public campaign and remind them that in its current practice--  Google Rewards Evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting in Graham, and best of luck sorting out the spam barriers.</p>
<p>Just remember folks, that the Great and Powerful Google, who publicly pledge &#8220;Do No Evil&#8221;, provides the entire incentive for spammer&#8217;s activity. </p>
<p>So, as you waste time moderating comments, trying to get captchas or other tools working, or just give up in desperation, that perhaps the Great Google Minds could come up with a scheme that would punish forever a bestiality site that inserts links to itself in some poor educators blog. That is evil in my book.</p>
<p>Someone really needs to start a public campaign and remind them that in its current practice&#8211;  Google Rewards Evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Attwell</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-21963</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Attwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - thanks to all of you who tried to add comments - and yes I like comments very much. I now the problems - can&#039;t even get the system to work myself to reply to your comments (when they get through).

Problem - I think - is that as spam got ever more prevalent the systems developers added more layers of security to the extent that teh system is broken.

Am talking with them about how to solve it......

NB for those curious the system is called Knotes and runs in Plone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; thanks to all of you who tried to add comments &#8211; and yes I like comments very much. I now the problems &#8211; can&#8217;t even get the system to work myself to reply to your comments (when they get through).</p>
<p>Problem &#8211; I think &#8211; is that as spam got ever more prevalent the systems developers added more layers of security to the extent that teh system is broken.</p>
<p>Am talking with them about how to solve it&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>NB for those curious the system is called Knotes and runs in Plone.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-16948</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for confirming. If I can only figure out how to hack SK2 or get the attention of the Evil Genious Dr Dave, you can have your postrophe back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for confirming. If I can only figure out how to hack SK2 or get the attention of the Evil Genious Dr Dave, you can have your postrophe back</p>
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		<title>By: DArcy Norman</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-16945</link>
		<dc:creator>DArcy Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and that seemed to work. I&#039;m guessing the same thing happens to O&#039;Reilly... Oh, well. I&#039;ll just have to deapostrophe myself to comment here :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and that seemed to work. I&#8217;m guessing the same thing happens to O&#8217;Reilly&#8230; Oh, well. I&#8217;ll just have to deapostrophe myself to comment here :-)</p>
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		<title>By: DArcy Norman</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-16944</link>
		<dc:creator>DArcy Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying without an apostrophe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying without an apostrophe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-16939</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have more persistence than I, Sean ;-) However, I admit maybe being overly critical, as on more than one occasion my blog, websites, etc have failed in functionality miserably (the most repeat commenter on CDB gets spanked by SpamKarma 2 after 200 some comments, and I cannot figure out why-- D&#039;Arcy, maybe try w/o the apostrophe in your first name). 

In the spirit of holidays, and general aiming to give folks a chance, I&#039;ll give some slack to Graham Atwell and maybe he will attend to his comment issues.

That said, never underestimate the cost to users of web sites if for whatever valid reasons, you make them jump hurdles to participate. 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have more persistence than I, Sean ;-) However, I admit maybe being overly critical, as on more than one occasion my blog, websites, etc have failed in functionality miserably (the most repeat commenter on CDB gets spanked by SpamKarma 2 after 200 some comments, and I cannot figure out why&#8211; D&#8217;Arcy, maybe try w/o the apostrophe in your first name). </p>
<p>In the spirit of holidays, and general aiming to give folks a chance, I&#8217;ll give some slack to Graham Atwell and maybe he will attend to his comment issues.</p>
<p>That said, never underestimate the cost to users of web sites if for whatever valid reasons, you make them jump hurdles to participate. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean FitzGerald (aka Sean McDunnough)</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-16934</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean FitzGerald (aka Sean McDunnough)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I tested the comments I entitled the test &#039;Is this thing on?&#039;... when I saw it worked I was given the option to edit the comment title and content. I changed the title to &#039;I suggest you take a closer look before passing judgement&#039; and re-entered the comment. However, the comment is still entitled &#039;Is this thing on?&#039; from the main blog page, so there is no real indication that my comment is there.

It&#039;s also worth noting that the permalink to his later post - &#039;More on Second Life - Convince Me&#039; returns an error, so we can&#039;t even link directly to it.

Alan, you say &#039;This high level non-functionality of the blog is surely a way to non-promote the product, eh?.&#039; It&#039;s also a way to give the impression that an open dialogue is not sought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I tested the comments I entitled the test &#8216;Is this thing on?&#8217;&#8230; when I saw it worked I was given the option to edit the comment title and content. I changed the title to &#8216;I suggest you take a closer look before passing judgement&#8217; and re-entered the comment. However, the comment is still entitled &#8216;Is this thing on?&#8217; from the main blog page, so there is no real indication that my comment is there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that the permalink to his later post &#8211; &#8216;More on Second Life &#8211; Convince Me&#8217; returns an error, so we can&#8217;t even link directly to it.</p>
<p>Alan, you say &#8216;This high level non-functionality of the blog is surely a way to non-promote the product, eh?.&#8217; It&#8217;s also a way to give the impression that an open dialogue is not sought.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-16927</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham - digging through we page source pounts to &quot;KNotes&quot; built on Plone... a product offered by Graham Atwell&#039;s KnowNet site:
http://www.knownet.com/products/product-info/knotes

This high level non-functionality of the blog is surely a way to non-promote the product, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham &#8211; digging through we page source pounts to &#8220;KNotes&#8221; built on Plone&#8230; a product offered by Graham Atwell&#8217;s KnowNet site:<br />
<a href="http://www.knownet.com/products/product-info/knotes" rel="nofollow">http://www.knownet.com/products/product-info/knotes</a></p>
<p>This high level non-functionality of the blog is surely a way to non-promote the product, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Wegner</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-16884</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 03:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been keen to comment on Graham Attwell&#039;s site in the past as well but it all looks way too complex - what platform does he use, because it looks very unique  - so I haven&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been keen to comment on Graham Attwell&#8217;s site in the past as well but it all looks way too complex &#8211; what platform does he use, because it looks very unique  &#8211; so I haven&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2006/12/20/hurdles/comment-page-1/#comment-15830</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 05:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spam shall find you, have no fear, David. Enjoy the quiet repreive while it lasts.

I consider it a tattered badge of honor, and I know plenty of others who make my spam load seem like minuscule muse turds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spam shall find you, have no fear, David. Enjoy the quiet repreive while it lasts.</p>
<p>I consider it a tattered badge of honor, and I know plenty of others who make my spam load seem like minuscule muse turds.</p>
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