Comments on: TLA, Ergo Sum http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/ Alan Levine's blog space for barking about instructional technology Thu, 22 May 2008 20:05:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: OLDaily[中文版] » Blog Archive » 2007年4月16日 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-34751 OLDaily[中文版] » Blog Archive » 2007年4月16日 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:06:41 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-34751 [...] Attwell致意。Alan Levine上周六在一个帖子中也讲到了这个主题。Jay Cross, Informal learning April 16, 2007 [...] [...] Attwell致意。Alan Levine上周六在一个帖子中也讲到了这个主题。Jay Cross, Informal learning April 16, 2007 [...]

]]> By: AND AND AND AND (PLE) at Sims Learning Connections http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26516 AND AND AND AND (PLE) at Sims Learning Connections Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:14:07 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26516 [...] by Alan Levine’s TLA, Ergo Sum and Jay Cross’s [...] [...] by Alan Levine’s TLA, Ergo Sum and Jay Cross’s [...]

]]> By: Stephen Downes http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26368 Stephen Downes Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:37:08 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26368 In all fairness - when I talked about personal learning environments at MIT and at the conference in Boston this week, I prefaced my remarks by saying "PLEs don't exist yet" (I actually said that, you can check the MP3s). Then I showed then things like MyGlu, RSS Writr, and Edu_RSS, all of which do exist and are in various stages of construction. I also showed them Plex, which also exists (though I said I wasn't thrilled with it). So... yeah. I see your point. Though in the last few slides of my eLearning Guild presentation I did make a pretty good run at defining one. If that helps. http://www.downes.ca/post/39831 http://www.downes.ca/post/39802 In all fairness - when I talked about personal learning environments at MIT and at the conference in Boston this week, I prefaced my remarks by saying “PLEs don’t exist yet” (I actually said that, you can check the MP3s).

Then I showed then things like MyGlu, RSS Writr, and Edu_RSS, all of which do exist and are in various stages of construction. I also showed them Plex, which also exists (though I said I wasn’t thrilled with it).

So… yeah. I see your point. Though in the last few slides of my eLearning Guild presentation I did make a pretty good run at defining one. If that helps.

http://www.downes.ca/post/39831
http://www.downes.ca/post/39802

]]> By: Vicki Davis http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26366 Vicki Davis Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:14:52 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26366 May I post this conversation and hyperlink into the Ning over for horizon, I'm trying to capture the most important snippets of conversation for the archive of how we are moving along here. May I post this conversation and hyperlink into the Ning over for horizon, I’m trying to capture the most important snippets of conversation for the archive of how we are moving along here.

]]> By: Vicki Davis http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26365 Vicki Davis Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:13:50 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26365 This is absolutely a huge issue that is at the heart of information literacy. It is almost having to judge the author's intent and expertise, etc. when looking at a new word or definition. It is very easy for beginners to implicitly trust things and this is a great post that shows that all words are not what they seem and that even among experts there is debate whether they exist or not. I think this is an excellent post for the students to see. But keep posting the stream of consciousness, I just think it is great for students to see that experts are piecing together the horizon too! This is absolutely a huge issue that is at the heart of information literacy. It is almost having to judge the author’s intent and expertise, etc. when looking at a new word or definition. It is very easy for beginners to implicitly trust things and this is a great post that shows that all words are not what they seem and that even among experts there is debate whether they exist or not. I think this is an excellent post for the students to see.

But keep posting the stream of consciousness, I just think it is great for students to see that experts are piecing together the horizon too!

]]> By: Alan http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26364 Alan Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:22:45 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26364 Eeek, if I knew that, I might have written for more clarity -- they should know that my writing here is just short of stream of consciousness and pretty much the first draft. It's more of a case of trying to figure out when people describe something like these acronyms, do they actually represent something? Are they conceptual? It's not to say that one is better than another, but on a casual readers side it may be a challenge to discern. CYA Eeek, if I knew that, I might have written for more clarity — they should know that my writing here is just short of stream of consciousness and pretty much the first draft.

It’s more of a case of trying to figure out when people describe something like these acronyms, do they actually represent something? Are they conceptual? It’s not to say that one is better than another, but on a casual readers side it may be a challenge to discern.

CYA

]]> By: Vicki Davis http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26359 Vicki Davis Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:39:43 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/2007/04/14/tla-ergo-sum/#comment-26359 I have sent this as an article for our students to review so that they can understand the terminology. I think that what you speak of here -- that if enough people use the term that others who aren't "in" on the conversations begin to think it is a fact whereas it is really something that is being discussed and is on the HORIZON. (pardon the pun) -- it is a very easy trap for students ( and teachers) who are on the cutting edge of technology trends to fall into and it is something that we are going to watch carefully as the students launch the project this week. It is part of information literacy to realize that just because one source or even several sources appear to discuss something doesn't mean that it really exists. I'm going to think about this one. I have sent this as an article for our students to review so that they can understand the terminology. I think that what you speak of here — that if enough people use the term that others who aren’t “in” on the conversations begin to think it is a fact whereas it is really something that is being discussed and is on the HORIZON. (pardon the pun) — it is a very easy trap for students ( and teachers) who are on the cutting edge of technology trends to fall into and it is something that we are going to watch carefully as the students launch the project this week. It is part of information literacy to realize that just because one source or even several sources appear to discuss something doesn’t mean that it really exists. I’m going to think about this one.

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