Comments on: The Presentation File != The Presentation (and 3D Foolishness)

By: Blunt Force Presentation Trauma » CogDogBlog

Blunt Force Presentation Trauma » CogDogBlog — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:05:41 +0000

[...] more of the Presentation Zen style approach– but I keep wanting to shout from a mountain THE PRESENTATION FILE IS NOT THE PRESENTATION. My estimates are about 80% of shared slide decks are useless clutter of media without the message. [...]

By: Alan Levine aka CogDog

Alan Levine aka CogDog — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:48:12 +0000

Great ideas Jen, just concentrate on driving first ;-)

I did a series of this in 2006 for the k12 online conference- a flickr presentatipn in flickr (http://flickr.com/photos/cogdog/265279980), a del.icio.us presentation iin del.icio.us (http://del.icio.us/cogdog/tastydemo), a YouTube on in… you get it.

mix it up!

By: Jen

Jen — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:17:43 +0000

Too funny. I was logging into your blog to tag it as a resource for a presentation. I’m creating it here http://wecplanning.wikispaces.com/J+Detailed I’m going to embed a del.icio.us widget with resources. All I have to do is tag my sites. For my presentation, I’m using a wiki. I’ll mostly be talking and sharing stories of connections. I’m trying to avoid doing a Web 2.0 show and tell. However, each story will feature some tools. I’m not going to run all of them, but the attendees can access them afterwards. I’m actually considering recording the stories with my audio recorder while I drive the 5 hours tomorrow. Then I can embed those on the page as well in case others want to use the site. Ooooo…if I use Utterz for the stories, other people from the stories can respond!

By: Alan Levine aka CogDog

Alan Levine aka CogDog — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:57:26 +0000

Nancy, that is not a problem with uStream, its a problem with camera position. Generally a laptop mounted camera is not the way to go, a mounted camera that can be aimed is better.

A wiki is certainly a way to go, but there is not a single “best” way. Many times the visuals are important, my point is that they dont stand on their own.

By: Nancy

Nancy — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:21:17 +0000

“Go reall crazy and Ustream it and save it as an archive.”
Oh PLEASE DON’T!!!
Do you realize how FRUSTRATING it is to viewers of uStreams to have to try to decipher what is going on on the screen behind the presenter. I have no desire to watch a presenter pace back and forth and point a screen that I cannot see.

Much better to upload the presentation slides, number each slide, and then for each slide provide further resources in the form of your notes or links.

But in reality, a presentation is really not a presentation w/o a presenter….so why bother uploading the presentation at all? Just provide a wiki with the information and better yet, make it editable so that others might add to the resources.

By: Stephen Downes

Stephen Downes — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:12:11 +0000

> I find myself floored by the irony that the way we share information in a 3d immersive world is rendering 2d images (slides) and lecturing to a passive audience sitting in nice neat rows. Isn’t this silly? or worse?

Yes it’s silly! It’s incredibly silly! It represents a total lack of imagination.

By: Alan Levine aka CogDog

Alan Levine aka CogDog — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:53:17 +0000

Hey I like it when we say the same things. Its more of a reaction when someone says, “I just presented on XXxxxx at Yyyyyyy, here is my presentation… ” and the link goes to something that really has not much to it if you were not there.

Oh well. Best we can do is model different behavior. Or bark at the moon.

By: Patrick Gosett-MurrayJohn

Patrick Gosett-MurrayJohn — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:00:35 +0000

Yes, but the slide-share sharing is just a fact of transfer between media — a slide presentation is, in its native context, an aural/visual medium. Putting it up on slideshare is great, but it’s too much to ask of slideshare that it also carry to F2F aural media (which is why I’m right there with your about having somebody record you in-person). Slideshare strikes me as analagous to a transciprtion of an oral performance — it’s a sliver of the real thing, but shouldn’t be confused with the real thing. That’s probably just another way of expressing your point.

By: D'Arcy Norman

D'Arcy Norman — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:53:02 +0000

Hear, hear! I’ve been railing against SL-as-webcast-engine for awhile now. Nearly every session I’ve seen has been a video rendered on a wall, with people sitting nicely in chairs, chatting with each other. That adds NOTHING over the Acrobat Connect / Eluminate / QuickTime webcast, and actually detracts from the experience because you need to get a good seat, figure out how to centre it in your field of vision, and hold your head still so you can see the video. Oh, and you get to tune out the “tappity tappity” of your neighbours chatting, because you get to hear the “I’m writing chat text now” notification sound from everyone nearby.

MUCH better to do that sort of thing on an old fashioned webcast. Bonus points for offering a chat backchannel. But SL isn’t the place for that kind of presentation.

What really interests me is the stuff that Brian did with the live mashup moshpit. Or collaborative works such as the architecture students building together.

Use SL (and other 3D metaverses) for what they’re good at – putting people together in an alternate universe where all laws of physics are suspended. Let them experiment with bending time and space and see what magic happens. Let them play with a connected mesh of avatars, constructing and manipulating “matter” at will. Leave the didactic slideshows for other venues.