CDB may know that my link into ed tech has often been him–via email, this blog, or conversations. Now there is Google, Facebook (Nexus, Friends Circle), NMC, and Second Life. I think I’m seeing more mashups of these human communities via folks like Jim Long at MIT and others like him. I hope so, I think that David Weinberg’s analysis in Everything is Miscellaneous hits the nail on the head in terms of what the huge barriers still are.

As Sophrosyne Stenvaag put it at an Extropia Saturday Salon or maybe at the WoW Scientific Conference–the collision of “gnosis and techne.”

Jim, I know one of your college colleagues via the PKAL leadership group. I’m pushing them to dive into the Web 2.0 waters and maybe you can help. :-)

Cheers,
Liz Dorland/Chimera Cosmos

I have no idea why water-based markers don’t wash off easily
http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2008/05/edupunk-an-intr.html

From the stump
It seems to me
Punks & hippies are
Just trying to be free!

Just call me an eduFreeSpirit
http://tinyurl.com/5qqho2

I’m glad you didn’t feel obligated to write this post, but I think we both know you’re so EDUPUNK! :)

You can hide from the label, and try and transcend the meme, but it is futile. All resistance is futile, all your “50+ Ways to Tell a Digital story” has belongs to us! And your insistence on calling it a meme, like so many others, is somewhat disappointing. I don’t think of it as such, I think of it as a kind of ethos that we can rally around and draw support from one another with. Sure the term has real limitations, and I really don’t care if folks use it or not. But I think, as Downes notes, that it is “signifying” to some degree with a whole range of folks in EdTech, and that is relevant to what we do.

I want to thank you for acknowledging “my reputation” (which should be checkered at best), yet I think this is bigger than anything any one person can do or say. (as my buddy Matt sugested quoting Meerrson and Whitman —EdTech was simmering, simering, simmering, and EDUPUNK brought it to a boil :) ). I could care less about the meme, but don’t for a second think I am not fully committed to the ideas that I think this represents (which are my own and don’t need to be bulleted as a list for anyone, they have their own and they should intrepret it accordingly, you can’t live a wrong Edtech life rightly).

It ain’t about any one person or thing, it’s about the call to create and think about what it is we’re doing using a playful, theme-based aesthetic and ethos to provide a framework (which will prove annoying for some) within which to imagine. And I don’t want it to simply be an occasion for mockery, divisiveness, or “attitude” (as Gardner notes correctly).

Ideally, it would provide an occasion for some fun and important stuff around some shared objects of a distributed reality. A sort of meaningful playing (both in the context of playing a game and playing in a band), that depends upon focus, riffing, disagreement, risks, faith, and a core belief that you have something worthwhile to say as a kind of communal moment of ion and jamming The eduglu blues was a moment wherein I think this was unwittingly brewing. Pick your genre, or give the band up and go solo, but I think that fact that we are all playing and we can make music and speak to others about what it is we do is important.

On another note, I’m not as certain as you are that the future fate of Bb (and other LMSs) is that of irrelevance. I think we all control that more than we think.

With love and kisses,

bava vicious

Why do I resist the labels I wonder? Perhaps to avoid being labelled myself. Others out there wonder about memes and labels as well. You are quite right Alan, giving something a name does not necessarily make it something

Occasionally I am caught up in the labels but then retreat. I do not wish to be become a clone I guess.

Cheers, John.