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		<title>By: Kathreen Riel</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-56043</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathreen Riel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alan,

Here&#039;s our first attempt at an Oscar http://www.vimeo.com/1358140
We&#039;re working on a clearer view of the screen but you get the &#039;gist&#039;
 
Appreciate your feedback

Sue and Kathreen
Moodle Support
University of Victoria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alan,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s our first attempt at an Oscar <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/1358140" rel="nofollow">http://www.vimeo.com/1358140</a><br />
We&#8217;re working on a clearer view of the screen but you get the &#8216;gist&#8217;</p>
<p>Appreciate your feedback</p>
<p>Sue and Kathreen<br />
Moodle Support<br />
University of Victoria</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-56027</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used both Camtasia and Adobe Captivate. Both are very robust tools. Jing.com (from the makers of Camtasia) appears to be a decent free tool for making screencasts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used both Camtasia and Adobe Captivate. Both are very robust tools. Jing.com (from the makers of Camtasia) appears to be a decent free tool for making screencasts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kern</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-55994</link>
		<dc:creator>kern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would you suggest using software-wise for doing a screencast on a PC? Any free decent ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would you suggest using software-wise for doing a screencast on a PC? Any free decent ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-55993</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen a lot of overly long screencasts, so maybe you&#039;re living in a different screencast world than I am. Most of my exposure has been through Atomic Learning. Theirs are all short like mine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen a lot of overly long screencasts, so maybe you&#8217;re living in a different screencast world than I am. Most of my exposure has been through Atomic Learning. Theirs are all short like mine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine aka CogDog</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-55992</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Levine aka CogDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris @Scott - I accept your points/examples, and need to retract and think the assumptiomns and the differences between my general casual viewing of casts versus when someone needs to do a specific things.

I do accept there is a lot of value in demonstrating through the screens how to do tasks. I have used a few of these, and sometimes they just still take to long to get to the point... maybe the problem is screencasts are made en masse trying to provide information for all audiences... text I can skim and get to the exact point I need.

@May Dude- whats your point? It ain&#039;t my photo and iss just a metaphor. Dude....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris @Scott &#8211; I accept your points/examples, and need to retract and think the assumptiomns and the differences between my general casual viewing of casts versus when someone needs to do a specific things.</p>
<p>I do accept there is a lot of value in demonstrating through the screens how to do tasks. I have used a few of these, and sometimes they just still take to long to get to the point&#8230; maybe the problem is screencasts are made en masse trying to provide information for all audiences&#8230; text I can skim and get to the exact point I need.</p>
<p>@May Dude- whats your point? It ain&#8217;t my photo and iss just a metaphor. Dude&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: May</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-55988</link>
		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The yawning in the photo looks fake.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-55984</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.schooldatatutorials.org

Maybe these &#039;atomized&#039; screencasts (to steal a term from Atomic Learning) will satisfy your discriminating palate a little better. I made them for my data-driven decision-making students (educators who want to be principals or superintendents). They seem to really like them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.schooldatatutorials.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.schooldatatutorials.org</a></p>
<p>Maybe these &#8216;atomized&#8217; screencasts (to steal a term from Atomic Learning) will satisfy your discriminating palate a little better. I made them for my data-driven decision-making students (educators who want to be principals or superintendents). They seem to really like them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without disagreeing, here are two other parts of the issue to think about:

1) isn&#039;t this a subset of a general &quot;problem&quot; with technical communication? From manuals to textbooks to how-tos to you-name-it, there&#039;s a lot of boring stuff out there

2)  I did a series of screencasts about some aspects of del.icio.us. In the first I purposefully went with a very dry, just-the-facts-ma&#039;am approach, essentially acting like a live technical manual. In the second I tried to be a bit different, make it more fun-- the students have vastly preferred the first! Making me reflect that perhaps I&#039;m not only not very entertaining, but maybe length and getting to the point matter more.

3) Need often trumps aesthetics. If something is unimportant, optional, or just of personal interest, then I&#039;m quick to turn it off-- whether screencast or television show or movie-- or put it down if it&#039;s a book or web site. But if I *need* it-- and students are not typically desire-based users-- I&#039;ll put up with a lot more... I might even find the rest of the frippery annoying when what I want is the information, the technique, the understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without disagreeing, here are two other parts of the issue to think about:</p>
<p>1) isn&#8217;t this a subset of a general &#8220;problem&#8221; with technical communication? From manuals to textbooks to how-tos to you-name-it, there&#8217;s a lot of boring stuff out there</p>
<p>2)  I did a series of screencasts about some aspects of del.icio.us. In the first I purposefully went with a very dry, just-the-facts-ma&#8217;am approach, essentially acting like a live technical manual. In the second I tried to be a bit different, make it more fun&#8211; the students have vastly preferred the first! Making me reflect that perhaps I&#8217;m not only not very entertaining, but maybe length and getting to the point matter more.</p>
<p>3) Need often trumps aesthetics. If something is unimportant, optional, or just of personal interest, then I&#8217;m quick to turn it off&#8211; whether screencast or television show or movie&#8211; or put it down if it&#8217;s a book or web site. But if I *need* it&#8211; and students are not typically desire-based users&#8211; I&#8217;ll put up with a lot more&#8230; I might even find the rest of the frippery annoying when what I want is the information, the technique, the understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Plourde</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/08/15/movie-review/comment-page-1/#comment-55964</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Plourde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alan,

Yeah, screencasts are usually pretty boring, totally agreed. The problem is the rapid development mentality that supports the use of screencasts. 

Building and publishing a screencast is faster and cheaper that writing support documentation. Therefore, organizations cut the corner by putting the tool in the hands of the subject matter experts and instructional technologists, asking them to produce &quot;multimedia&quot; web content.

Not a lot of time is spent on building a scenario, adding interaction, adding a support character, putting in dialogs, use cases or real-life scenarios, etc. 

Just because a tool which has a lot of potential is put into the hands of people doesn&#039;t mean the results will be spectacular. Look at Photoshop for instance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alan,</p>
<p>Yeah, screencasts are usually pretty boring, totally agreed. The problem is the rapid development mentality that supports the use of screencasts. </p>
<p>Building and publishing a screencast is faster and cheaper that writing support documentation. Therefore, organizations cut the corner by putting the tool in the hands of the subject matter experts and instructional technologists, asking them to produce &#8220;multimedia&#8221; web content.</p>
<p>Not a lot of time is spent on building a scenario, adding interaction, adding a support character, putting in dialogs, use cases or real-life scenarios, etc. </p>
<p>Just because a tool which has a lot of potential is put into the hands of people doesn&#8217;t mean the results will be spectacular. Look at Photoshop for instance&#8230;</p>
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