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		<title>By: Watching TV Not on a TV &#187; CogDogBlog</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/10/20/tv/comment-page-1/#comment-57993</link>
		<dc:creator>Watching TV Not on a TV &#187; CogDogBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve already waxed on the demise of the television I grew up with. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; El viejo y el mar - versión animada - OLDaily 20 de octubre/08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/10/20/tv/comment-page-1/#comment-57547</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; El viejo y el mar - versión animada - OLDaily 20 de octubre/08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Está todo unido al final del marketing de masas.[L][C] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Karyn Romeis</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/10/20/tv/comment-page-1/#comment-57269</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, and interesting responses. I addressed a related topic with &lt;a href=&quot;http://karynromeis.blogspot.com/2007/06/this-digital-nativeimmigrant-thing.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; a while back.

By the time I had my first experience of TV, I was in high school. Because I was at boarding school, my viewing was strictly controlled. Added to that was the rigorous government censorship in place, meaning that what was screened tended to be pretty inoccuous stuff.

I&#039;m not sure that TV shaped me to any extent, but I now watch several forensic type programmes (Bones, NCIS and all flavours of CSI) as well as a hilarious topical news quiz called Have I got News for You and an equally hilarious review of current events called Mock the Week.

I suspect these last two programmes are moulding my teenagers into a greater measure of critical thinking about current events than might otherwise have been the case.

Other than that, I&#039;ll look for a movie or a good documentary. We&#039;re being treated to a fabulous one at present called the Story of Maths, which is fascinating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, and interesting responses. I addressed a related topic with <a href="http://karynromeis.blogspot.com/2007/06/this-digital-nativeimmigrant-thing.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a> a while back.</p>
<p>By the time I had my first experience of TV, I was in high school. Because I was at boarding school, my viewing was strictly controlled. Added to that was the rigorous government censorship in place, meaning that what was screened tended to be pretty inoccuous stuff.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that TV shaped me to any extent, but I now watch several forensic type programmes (Bones, NCIS and all flavours of CSI) as well as a hilarious topical news quiz called Have I got News for You and an equally hilarious review of current events called Mock the Week.</p>
<p>I suspect these last two programmes are moulding my teenagers into a greater measure of critical thinking about current events than might otherwise have been the case.</p>
<p>Other than that, I&#8217;ll look for a movie or a good documentary. We&#8217;re being treated to a fabulous one at present called the Story of Maths, which is fascinating!</p>
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		<title>By: Tele-Vision. Remember? &#124; Workplace Learning Today</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/10/20/tv/comment-page-1/#comment-57262</link>
		<dc:creator>Tele-Vision. Remember? &#124; Workplace Learning Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] THE DEATH OF TV AS I KNEW IT &#124; Cogdogblog &#124; Alan Levine &#124; 20 October 2008 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dancing Monkey Mania &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-10-22</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2008/10/20/tv/comment-page-1/#comment-57255</link>
		<dc:creator>Dancing Monkey Mania &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-10-22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Death of TV As I Knew It » CogDogBlog (tags: mycomments toblog) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine aka CogDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Levine aka CogDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&amp;grid=&amp;xml=/earth/2008/10/17/scidream117.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; suggests why my dreams are in black and white, except for 15% which are in color stripes and smiling blonde.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&#038;grid=&#038;xml=/earth/2008/10/17/scidream117.xml" rel="nofollow">this article</a> suggests why my dreams are in black and white, except for 15% which are in color stripes and smiling blonde.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet Jebus but I love it when you throw the long blog bomb. Wish I had more time to write about it since, like you it seems,  I only watch TV on DVD, I was essentially raised and schooled (in my early years) by television. I definitely believe that TV-- in its content and its form-- shaped me and my outlook in some fundamental ways, which is one of the reasons I despite it now. But at the same time, I&#039;m not as sure as I used to be that there aren&#039;t some positive effects. No time to say more now, but this topic will surely find a way into my blog at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet Jebus but I love it when you throw the long blog bomb. Wish I had more time to write about it since, like you it seems,  I only watch TV on DVD, I was essentially raised and schooled (in my early years) by television. I definitely believe that TV&#8211; in its content and its form&#8211; shaped me and my outlook in some fundamental ways, which is one of the reasons I despite it now. But at the same time, I&#8217;m not as sure as I used to be that there aren&#8217;t some positive effects. No time to say more now, but this topic will surely find a way into my blog at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the FF poster too. I put it on my bedroom door at the bottom of the stairs and was the first thing you saw when you came in our house. My Mom hated that poster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the FF poster too. I put it on my bedroom door at the bottom of the stairs and was the first thing you saw when you came in our house. My Mom hated that poster.</p>
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		<title>By: JenWagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenWagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post was very timely -- I cancelled cable on Saturday, mainly because I could save $600 a year and also the fact that almost everything &quot;I HAVE TO SEE&quot; is either on the internet or available on DVD.

I have to say though -- that our misconceptions (such as families are perfect like the Brady&#039;s or the Cartwrights), that the bluest sky is in Seattle, etc etc. continue even now. 

Not all kids have sex before they exit High School, not all Christians are fanatics, people who are stranded for 30 days on an island are not really stranded, and I doubt that it is possible that someone will appear on your doorstep and offer your family the opportunity to win $500,000.  (Though as a youngster I did believe that Hobo Kelly might one day put a present in my washing machine!)

I do think that TV not only molded us -- but melded us as well.  Do you remember hurrying to work to discuss certain shows, staying riveted by the tv during the space shuttle disasters, watching the royal wedding?  Our lives were shared with others because of what we viewed.  Whether it was simplistic or realistic, we lost ourselves in tv land at times during the week and then found ourselves again by discussing what we saw.

I enjoyed this post, the thoughts it created, the memories -- and the understanding that those of us in our 40&#039;s and 50&#039;s do have memories that breed familiarity!!  Thanks for taking the time to post.

Jennifer Wagner

ps -- do you remember when Rosalynd Shays plunged down the elevator shaft!! Now THAT was a watercooler conversation for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post was very timely &#8212; I cancelled cable on Saturday, mainly because I could save $600 a year and also the fact that almost everything &#8220;I HAVE TO SEE&#8221; is either on the internet or available on DVD.</p>
<p>I have to say though &#8212; that our misconceptions (such as families are perfect like the Brady&#8217;s or the Cartwrights), that the bluest sky is in Seattle, etc etc. continue even now. </p>
<p>Not all kids have sex before they exit High School, not all Christians are fanatics, people who are stranded for 30 days on an island are not really stranded, and I doubt that it is possible that someone will appear on your doorstep and offer your family the opportunity to win $500,000.  (Though as a youngster I did believe that Hobo Kelly might one day put a present in my washing machine!)</p>
<p>I do think that TV not only molded us &#8212; but melded us as well.  Do you remember hurrying to work to discuss certain shows, staying riveted by the tv during the space shuttle disasters, watching the royal wedding?  Our lives were shared with others because of what we viewed.  Whether it was simplistic or realistic, we lost ourselves in tv land at times during the week and then found ourselves again by discussing what we saw.</p>
<p>I enjoyed this post, the thoughts it created, the memories &#8212; and the understanding that those of us in our 40&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s do have memories that breed familiarity!!  Thanks for taking the time to post.</p>
<p>Jennifer Wagner</p>
<p>ps &#8212; do you remember when Rosalynd Shays plunged down the elevator shaft!! Now THAT was a watercooler conversation for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Downes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting an useful post.

I watched quite a bit of television when I was young, and was shaped by shows like the Thunderbirds (and, I guess, Bugs Bunny and Road Runner, but Thunderbirds was by far and away my favorite).

I was upset when Kennedy was assassinated, because that&#039;s all there was on TV - my cartoons were canceled. I remember Expo 67 and the Six-Day War, the Moon Landing, the Munich Olympics, and much more.

But then in middle school I stopped watching TV almost completely. I would watch the occasional program, but I spent much more of my time in my room, reading, playing and making games (esp. Strat-O-Matic baseball) with my brothers, making projects, etc.

I have a TV in my room for a couple of years in my teens, but when I left home at 18 I left the TV behind - and did not have one again for almost 10 years (I didn&#039;t have a bed either; I slept on the floor). The entire tim I went to university I read books, listened to music, or (later) worked on my computer.

I&#039;ve had a TV for the last 10 or 15 years, but I hardly watch it - my attention is no longer focused on the box. It&#039;s background noise that amuses me as I focus my attention - and my learning - on the computer. And when I finally got an iPod a few years ago, music flooded back into my life like it never had before.

From my perspective, the main result of my minimal TV viewing is that it made me... different.

There&#039;s a lot of things a lot of people believe that I&#039;m pretty sure were, if you will, &#039;programmed&#039; into them - some intentionally, some unintentionally. Attitudes, forms of reasoning, background beliefs, judgments. 

I&#039;m not one to linger on the &#039;net generation&#039; literature a whole lot either. But let me tell you what I see when I see them. What I see is the *absence* of that &#039;programming&#039; that I see in the television generation.

And... forget the rest of it. That one fact gives me hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting an useful post.</p>
<p>I watched quite a bit of television when I was young, and was shaped by shows like the Thunderbirds (and, I guess, Bugs Bunny and Road Runner, but Thunderbirds was by far and away my favorite).</p>
<p>I was upset when Kennedy was assassinated, because that&#8217;s all there was on TV &#8211; my cartoons were canceled. I remember Expo 67 and the Six-Day War, the Moon Landing, the Munich Olympics, and much more.</p>
<p>But then in middle school I stopped watching TV almost completely. I would watch the occasional program, but I spent much more of my time in my room, reading, playing and making games (esp. Strat-O-Matic baseball) with my brothers, making projects, etc.</p>
<p>I have a TV in my room for a couple of years in my teens, but when I left home at 18 I left the TV behind &#8211; and did not have one again for almost 10 years (I didn&#8217;t have a bed either; I slept on the floor). The entire tim I went to university I read books, listened to music, or (later) worked on my computer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a TV for the last 10 or 15 years, but I hardly watch it &#8211; my attention is no longer focused on the box. It&#8217;s background noise that amuses me as I focus my attention &#8211; and my learning &#8211; on the computer. And when I finally got an iPod a few years ago, music flooded back into my life like it never had before.</p>
<p>From my perspective, the main result of my minimal TV viewing is that it made me&#8230; different.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of things a lot of people believe that I&#8217;m pretty sure were, if you will, &#8216;programmed&#8217; into them &#8211; some intentionally, some unintentionally. Attitudes, forms of reasoning, background beliefs, judgments. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not one to linger on the &#8216;net generation&#8217; literature a whole lot either. But let me tell you what I see when I see them. What I see is the *absence* of that &#8216;programming&#8217; that I see in the television generation.</p>
<p>And&#8230; forget the rest of it. That one fact gives me hope.</p>
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