Comments on: Storm The Walled Gardens From a Side Door http://cogdogblog.com/2008/11/23/storm-walled-gardens/ Alan Levine's space for barking about and playing with technology Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:46:15 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: @rrodrigo http://cogdogblog.com/2008/11/23/storm-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-58022 @rrodrigo Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:44:56 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3060#comment-58022 hah...this is continuing what I brought up in my last reply post (so yeah, I'm only catching up on 30+ of your blog postings). First, this obviously implies the need to "teach naked" (as per the presentation at the nmc virtual conference). Ultimately...I think this starts to point as some of the hyper-conservatism of educational legal systems...could there be a way of somehow making LMSs have both open and closed portions of the environment? I'm rambling too... hah…this is continuing what I brought up in my last reply post (so yeah, I’m only catching up on 30+ of your blog postings). First, this obviously implies the need to “teach naked” (as per the presentation at the nmc virtual conference).
Ultimately…I think this starts to point as some of the hyper-conservatism of educational legal systems…could there be a way of somehow making LMSs have both open and closed portions of the environment?
I’m rambling too…

]]> By: Clay Burell http://cogdogblog.com/2008/11/23/storm-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-57801 Clay Burell Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:05:16 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3060#comment-57801 Stephen's point aside, it still irks me that I'm blocked out of possible conversations around content I share. Stephen’s point aside, it still irks me that I’m blocked out of possible conversations around content I share.

]]> By: Rob Wall http://cogdogblog.com/2008/11/23/storm-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-57780 Rob Wall Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:27:05 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3060#comment-57780 I would bet a whole bunch of money, if I had any, that we would find not only CC-SA licensed content used in ways that violate the terms of the license but also a lot of fully copyrighted material that has been "remixed". I remember Brian Lamb saying once that part of the reason why some instructors would be hesitant to put their course content out on the Free web is because of how often they violate copyright. He also pointed out that with the growing availability of free, creative commons licensed content, there is no need to rely so heavily on appropriated resources. Those are some of my thoughts, but I have to admit that the real reason I wanted to comment was to say how cool it is that you use the word "trebuchet" in your post. Well done! :-) I would bet a whole bunch of money, if I had any, that we would find not only CC-SA licensed content used in ways that violate the terms of the license but also a lot of fully copyrighted material that has been “remixed”. I remember Brian Lamb saying once that part of the reason why some instructors would be hesitant to put their course content out on the Free web is because of how often they violate copyright. He also pointed out that with the growing availability of free, creative commons licensed content, there is no need to rely so heavily on appropriated resources.

Those are some of my thoughts, but I have to admit that the real reason I wanted to comment was to say how cool it is that you use the word “trebuchet” in your post. Well done! :-)

]]> By: Alan Levine aka CogDog http://cogdogblog.com/2008/11/23/storm-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-57771 Alan Levine aka CogDog Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:50:37 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3060#comment-57771 Didn't I say that? "Now one quick thought is- if all they are doing is linking, then the license does not apply." The point would be to put a burden of responsibility on the Blackboard, et als, for allowing systems to violate licenses.... hmm, that could leverage people not to remix content... oh forget it. Like I said, it was a (less than) quarter baked idea. Didn’t I say that? “Now one quick thought is- if all they are doing is linking, then the license does not apply.”

The point would be to put a burden of responsibility on the Blackboard, et als, for allowing systems to violate licenses…. hmm, that could leverage people not to remix content… oh forget it. Like I said, it was a (less than) quarter baked idea.

]]> By: Stephen Downes http://cogdogblog.com/2008/11/23/storm-walled-gardens/comment-page-1/#comment-57769 Stephen Downes Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:08:04 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3060#comment-57769 I doubt that merely linking to the content would be considered to be a form of reuse or modification of the content. And that's all that seems to be happening here ("inbound links from locked up course management systems"). I doubt that merely linking to the content would be considered to be a form of reuse or modification of the content.

And that’s all that seems to be happening here (“inbound links from locked up course management systems”).

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