Comments on: Hash Tags, Trash Tags, Hack Tags http://cogdogblog.com/2009/04/19/hash-trash-hack-tags/ Alan Levine's space for barking about and playing with technology Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:01:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Patrick Murray-John http://cogdogblog.com/2009/04/19/hash-trash-hack-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-69055 Patrick Murray-John Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:00:59 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3549#comment-69055 Re: RDFizing stuff. Well, yeah, always like structure, and a UI can help with that, but there's also really good experimentation being done to scrape structure from the tags. One of the semantic web gurus, Benji Nowack, is doing some big work along these lines (<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/bengee/semantic-microblogging-presentation" rel="nofollow">slideshow</a> about it). So is Raphael Alvarado (@ontoligent on twitter). The nice thing is that in addition to hash-tags, twitter also has user-tags -- that's what the @ says. I've also seen people experimenting with ! for other meanings. Then with a few good regexps they're deriving the RDF from the tweets. In short, as an RDF person, I'm data-promiscuous: I'll take it however and wherever I can get it, and the easier it is for people to give it to me, the better! Re: RDFizing stuff. Well, yeah, always like structure, and a UI can help with that, but there’s also really good experimentation being done to scrape structure from the tags. One of the semantic web gurus, Benji Nowack, is doing some big work along these lines (slideshow about it). So is Raphael Alvarado (@ontoligent on twitter). The nice thing is that in addition to hash-tags, twitter also has user-tags — that’s what the @ says. I’ve also seen people experimenting with ! for other meanings. Then with a few good regexps they’re deriving the RDF from the tweets.

In short, as an RDF person, I’m data-promiscuous: I’ll take it however and wherever I can get it, and the easier it is for people to give it to me, the better!

]]> By: Alan Levine aka CogDog http://cogdogblog.com/2009/04/19/hash-trash-hack-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-69047 Alan Levine aka CogDog Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:00:36 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3549#comment-69047 @Patrick - Good points; would also #fail on mobile, but I thought Mr RDF would go for it ;-) @Patrick – Good points; would also #fail on mobile, but I thought Mr RDF would go for it ;-)

]]> By: Patrick Murray-John http://cogdogblog.com/2009/04/19/hash-trash-hack-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-69041 Patrick Murray-John Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:02:08 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3549#comment-69041 I dunno...I like that I don't have to switch to another input element to add a hashtag. Part of twitter is the speed to dashing off a tweet, and building more into the UI just to #hastag something seems counterproductive. I dunno…I like that I don’t have to switch to another input element to add a hashtag. Part of twitter is the speed to dashing off a tweet, and building more into the UI just to #hastag something seems counterproductive.

]]> By: Mathieu Plourde http://cogdogblog.com/2009/04/19/hash-trash-hack-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-69031 Mathieu Plourde Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:54:27 +0000 http://cogdogblog.com/?p=3549#comment-69031 Hi Alan, Twitter forces us to be more selective when it comes to tagging, and I think that's totally fine. As I have expressed it many times before, Twitter is a gateway to the web, an human search engine, so people who abuse hash tags on twitter are doing a disservice to themselves, limiting even more the coherence and length of their messages. It's a part of the learning process to moderate your tag usage, and Twitter offers the opportunity to unfollow people who don't add value to this new kind of conversation. So, IMO, anything is fair play, since it's an opt-in open playground. Hi Alan,

Twitter forces us to be more selective when it comes to tagging, and I think that’s totally fine. As I have expressed it many times before, Twitter is a gateway to the web, an human search engine, so people who abuse hash tags on twitter are doing a disservice to themselves, limiting even more the coherence and length of their messages.

It’s a part of the learning process to moderate your tag usage, and Twitter offers the opportunity to unfollow people who don’t add value to this new kind of conversation. So, IMO, anything is fair play, since it’s an opt-in open playground.

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