Comments on: Pissing on the Wave

By: Alan Levine aka CogDog

Alan Levine aka CogDog — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:17:15 +0000

I hear ya Jeremy- Maybe such ways of conversing will happen soon via a trickle of things or a flood.

I was thinking of creating a new technology- What if we could re-invent comment blogging, knowing everything we know today? What would it look like? There is a great 90 minute video almost ready for release that gives you a taste….

Thanks for the /b/ reference- I knew of it only i the bare marginal sense….

By: Jeremy Kemp

Jeremy Kemp — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:06:15 +0000

I found /B/ here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//B/#.2Fb.2F

GOSH! I wish there were some way for me to add this reply ^^ up there ^^ under your post…. And then I wish there were a way maybe to split off that note and start a new one on Internet memes… and then I wish there were a way for me to riff on that thread with Alan when he were actually live online… and then I wish could add a widget on the fly to change the interface here and add my own interactive content… and then I wish I had live machine translation so my acquaintance from Spain could chime in….

Yep – it is over-hyped and awkward. But it changes the game!

By: Suzanne Aurilio

Suzanne Aurilio — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:25:50 +0000

Thanks Alan, good points. I hadn’t really come up with configurations that ultimately wowed me, so I just jumped in and started experiments. I made a couple of my own, with something like 14 people on them and then I’m following others’ list. My logic seems to be at this point really organic, some are topical some are location-based. My collections, are like delicious tags, how they’re connected makes sense to me, at the moment. That could change though. Prolly should, like a river’s never the same…watery metaphorically.

By: Alan Levine aka CogDog

Alan Levine aka CogDog — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:49:44 +0000

I’m seeing lists a bit differently- there seems to be a lot of wave like fervor to create these ultimate lists of “important”/”popular”/”best” etc. That does not interest me, nor do I see it really as a way to locate people to follow.

I thought it is a more useful way to provide some logical grouping for say, classes, projects, working groups, maybe conference attendees as a slightly different way to aggregate (a hash tag is a subset of what people tweet, a list says the collection of people as a group matter, maybe).

It’s all emerging (or submerging uh oh another watery metaphor!)

By: John Larkin

John Larkin — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:09:54 +0000

Alan, I agree with you regarding Wave. Seems to be the wheel reinvented with added whitewalls but with “no direction home”. As Flavor Flav of Public Enemy sings: “Don’t Believe The Hype”.

Another big thrill out there at the moments is… Twitter Lists. They may be good but they may also be overkill. How does one easily cull a list from 300, 400, 500 or 1000 followers? Some of the lists I have seen have 300+ people in them.

Surely the lists should be kept to a small core of seriously like minded souls, say ten people, or that wonderful short term memory figure of 7? I think people are adding a large number of individuals to their list so that they do not offend anyone.

By: Suzanne Aurilio

Suzanne Aurilio — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:04:01 +0000

Brad, Food for thought thanks. I see what you’re saying too. As a technology “user,” my metaphors are often tool-centric.

I’m surfing with the Educause Wave(s), we’ll see what happens.

By: Alan Levine aka CogDog

Alan Levine aka CogDog — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:51:04 +0000

Thanks Brad for your optimism, I am slightly re-invigorated to dig deeper.

By: Brad

Brad — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:33:17 +0000

Suzanne, I feel that saying wave is a tool that wants to do a bunch of stuff is like saying the web is a tool that wants to do a bunch of stuff. After all, we use the web for editing documents, sharing files, writing messages, curating resources, reading news, keeping personal content archives, blogging, social networking, playing sudoku. The list goes on and on.

What I am saying is that wave is a protocol, much like the protocols that make the web, email, and instant messaging work. Just as the web shook up old models of organization (hyperlinked instead of hierarchical, bottom-up instead of top-down.) The wave aims to shake up models of interaction by being simultaneously synchronous and asynchronous as well as linear and non-linear.

I don’t know if this protocol will be successful or see wide adoption. But i am cautiously optimistic.

By: Suzanne Aurilio

Suzanne Aurilio — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:41:08 +0000

Yikes sorry for that 3rd paragraph of sentence fragments. No excuse, except wax under my nails

By: Suzanne Aurilio

Suzanne Aurilio — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:38:10 +0000

I’ll hang out a bit, on the beach, waxing (my board) and see what happens. I haven’t logged back into my Waves since I got ‘em up. Maybe I should.
My knee-jerk reaction to tools that wanna do a bunch of stuff for me , is yike! stay away. Call it my technological demeanor going Zen, but I’m finding myself less and less attracted to an app or a configuration of apps that want me to centralize on them. This seems to be more true for web-based ones, than local ones. Ok I do use Entourage to centralize email-related stuff and organize my thinking around them with notes, categories, email groups and rules. But I don’t use all the other dang features, although I used to use the tasks.
My centralizing interface for the web is my browser. Or maybe it’s ultimately my laptop? Since I don’t really do everything in the browser. I still use Mail at home, and I’ve even uninstalled most of the extensions I was using with FF, because they bogged its performance.
Has anyone written the screenplay for “Feature Creep”?
Seriously though, what I find myself doing and liking is cycling through configurations. It’s that user-control experience. I’ve started actively using delicious again (via extensions) after not for 3 years.
So as soon as somebody like Jane Hart, lays out some useful tips…
omg she just did… on Wave, http://janeknight.typepad.com/socialmedia/, that’s when I’d jump in.