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	<title>Comments on: Cool isn&#8217;t so cool anymore</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine aka CogDog</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2010/01/05/cool-isnt-so-cool-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-73269</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Levine aka CogDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*now* I am scared!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*now* I am scared!</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Stein</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2010/01/05/cool-isnt-so-cool-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-73268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, eventually &quot;cool&quot; will become &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4wu7lNdiSc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bad&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, eventually &#8220;cool&#8221; will become &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4wu7lNdiSc" rel="nofollow">bad</a>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; What&#8217;s Really Going on in the Latest &#8220;Openness&#8221; Discussion? Chris Lott</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; What&#8217;s Really Going on in the Latest &#8220;Openness&#8221; Discussion? Chris Lott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (see: David Wiley’s response and response to responses, Martin Weller, Brian Lamb, Pontydysgu, Always Cool Alan, Jim Groom’s response and a response to the response to his response, Graham Atwell, etc) and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (see: David Wiley’s response and response to responses, Martin Weller, Brian Lamb, Pontydysgu, Always Cool Alan, Jim Groom’s response and a response to the response to his response, Graham Atwell, etc) and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruminate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s Really Going on in the Latest &#8220;Openness&#8221; Discussion?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruminate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s Really Going on in the Latest &#8220;Openness&#8221; Discussion?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (see: David Wiley’s response and response to responses, Martin Weller, Brian Lamb, Pontydysgu, Always Cool Alan, Jim Groom’s response and a response to the response to his response, Graham Atwell, etc) and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (see: David Wiley’s response and response to responses, Martin Weller, Brian Lamb, Pontydysgu, Always Cool Alan, Jim Groom’s response and a response to the response to his response, Graham Atwell, etc) and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Groom</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2010/01/05/cool-isnt-so-cool-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-73255</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Groom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was &#039;cool&#039; soon becomes bubblegum edupunk - and a lot of that is purile and self-serving IMO. We need cool ideas to kick us in the face to remind us to keep moving ... too many in the edu-consulting cartels orbiting the same stuff. Fax machines are not cool either. Keep up the good work Chachi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was &#8216;cool&#8217; soon becomes bubblegum edupunk &#8211; and a lot of that is purile and self-serving IMO. We need cool ideas to kick us in the face to remind us to keep moving &#8230; too many in the edu-consulting cartels orbiting the same stuff. Fax machines are not cool either. Keep up the good work Chachi.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine aka CogDog</title>
		<link>http://cogdogblog.com/2010/01/05/cool-isnt-so-cool-anymore/comment-page-1/#comment-73241</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Levine aka CogDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My whimsy is usually a mis-direction for saying, &quot;I don;t have anything profound to say.&quot; Nothing to toss in on pragmatism or submarine screen doors.

The thought occurred to me when reading Martin Weller&#039;s response, and thinking that trying to define &quot;open&quot; or &quot;openness&quot; seemed as vague as trying to define &quot;cool&quot; -- except you know it when you see it.

And it was just irony that the flickr creative commons images I found for 2 icons, Arthur Fonzarelli and James Dean, where actually imitations thereof.

So for Jim, I am feeling your concerns, but personally have little worries of companies being effective at defining the table. The networked world does not work that way; they will try, but it will be obvious (like a fake James Dean) and someone will call them on their shit.

I liked the provocation that George started and would agree we need more &quot;crazy ones&quot; and doubts that its going to come in a big way from established institutions. Maybe it will be an on foreseen outsider or a swelling of small revolutionaries, or never at all.

And no way, I was and am so un-cool, shall live and die a nebbishy geek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My whimsy is usually a mis-direction for saying, &#8220;I don;t have anything profound to say.&#8221; Nothing to toss in on pragmatism or submarine screen doors.</p>
<p>The thought occurred to me when reading Martin Weller&#8217;s response, and thinking that trying to define &#8220;open&#8221; or &#8220;openness&#8221; seemed as vague as trying to define &#8220;cool&#8221; &#8212; except you know it when you see it.</p>
<p>And it was just irony that the flickr creative commons images I found for 2 icons, Arthur Fonzarelli and James Dean, where actually imitations thereof.</p>
<p>So for Jim, I am feeling your concerns, but personally have little worries of companies being effective at defining the table. The networked world does not work that way; they will try, but it will be obvious (like a fake James Dean) and someone will call them on their shit.</p>
<p>I liked the provocation that George started and would agree we need more &#8220;crazy ones&#8221; and doubts that its going to come in a big way from established institutions. Maybe it will be an on foreseen outsider or a swelling of small revolutionaries, or never at all.</p>
<p>And no way, I was and am so un-cool, shall live and die a nebbishy geek.</p>
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		<title>By: George Siemens</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Siemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan - yes, you nail the need for coolness! We can&#039;t go on being quasi-cool. We must commit fully. We need a theoretical base from which to analyze what is cool and what is utilitarian.

I officially nominate you for first Chair in the Society for Analyzing Cool.

(I agree with Jim&#039;s comments - I think your jesting/mild mockery has more relevance than you may have intended!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan &#8211; yes, you nail the need for coolness! We can&#8217;t go on being quasi-cool. We must commit fully. We need a theoretical base from which to analyze what is cool and what is utilitarian.</p>
<p>I officially nominate you for first Chair in the Society for Analyzing Cool.</p>
<p>(I agree with Jim&#8217;s comments &#8211; I think your jesting/mild mockery has more relevance than you may have intended!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Groom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Groom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, because cool is very much at the forefront of the push for turning a potentially liberating idea into a market push.  It may be unavoidable, but framing something as cool is what the 60s revolution of advertising was all about, and it is cool that we try and package so much of what we are talking about---new tool, new term, new hairdo---as a way of promoting it with some kind of authenticity.  Yet, Frank&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Conquest of Cool&lt;/em&gt; suggests just how quickly this logic is eaten up and sold back to us...

So while you are jesting here, I think your ideas are even more resonant that you may have intended, although I may also be assuming that this wasn;t your intention, or someone the intention I am suggesting here is different than yours.  Either way, cool post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, because cool is very much at the forefront of the push for turning a potentially liberating idea into a market push.  It may be unavoidable, but framing something as cool is what the 60s revolution of advertising was all about, and it is cool that we try and package so much of what we are talking about&#8212;new tool, new term, new hairdo&#8212;as a way of promoting it with some kind of authenticity.  Yet, Frank&#8217;s <em>The Conquest of Cool</em> suggests just how quickly this logic is eaten up and sold back to us&#8230;</p>
<p>So while you are jesting here, I think your ideas are even more resonant that you may have intended, although I may also be assuming that this wasn;t your intention, or someone the intention I am suggesting here is different than yours.  Either way, cool post.</p>
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