Back to the AI Past: ChatGPT and ELIZA on a Blind Date

Perhaps there needs to be more romance in the world of Artificial Intelligence? For a while, I had some thoughts back to good old ELIZA. What does she think of all this stuff? Most likely she would not say but deflect back with more questions.

I had not realized … that extremely short exposures to a relatively simple computer program could induce powerful delusional thinking in quite normal people.

Joseph Weizenbaum in computer Power in Human Reason (1976)

What he describes has been called the ELIZA Effect, “the tendency to unconsciously assume computer behaviors are analogous to human behaviors.”

ELIZA, Meet ChatGPT

I solicited Doc Brown to drive the DeLorean back to 1964 but he was unavailable…

You can find many web-based implementations, my favorite is one is E.L.I.Z.A. Talking where you can simulate on a machine of her 1964-1966 era, and even speak to her.

So I had to play an intermediary setting them up on a blind date, shuffling questions and responses between the two of them.

To set the scene, i asked Stable Diffusion Online to create some visuals (I must be terrible at this because none of them were what I had in mind, maybe the first one top left is close?) using a prompt “an older woman and a younger bearded man seated at a restaurant table on a date’ photorealistic.”

Pick your own scene for this blind date:

I had to intervene a few times, but let’s listen in to this blind date:

To create this I just shuttled the responses back and forth between the two interfaces (ChatGPT sometimes needed me to nudge him, he was nervous?)

I turned to another AI service Murf.ai to render the audio. I am not quite sure where the AI comes into this versus the standard text to audio capabilities I’ve used before (the voice from https://www.masswerk.at/eliza/ is much better)

But shrug, if you put AI in the name, who know really what it does?

You should be able to “Murf” it yourself via https://murf.ai/share/lebr6p6e

I was not going to pay for the download fee, so I did the lazy route of playing audio from the Murf site and recording in Audacity on a second laptop.

Back to the Present

I did this exchange a week or two ago but it lingered as files. I was inspired a bit last night after Cori and I went to the classic Mae Wilson Theater in Moose Jaw to travel back in movie time to 1985.

So this blind date really was some time travel!

It’s also about as much as I feel like doing amongst the tidal wave of fervor over AI… like ten years ago, I turned to mocking a hyped edtech trend, here I start a new trend of mocking.

Again, turning the time machine back to ELIZA’s creator, from the Wikipedia article on the ELIZA Effect

Joseph Weizenbaum considered that not every part of the human thought could be reduced to logical formalisms and that “there are some acts of thought that ought to be attempted only by humans”.  He also observed that we develop emotional involvement with machines if we interact with them as humans. When chatbots are anthropomorphized, they tend to portray gendered features as a way through which we establish relationships with the technology. “Gender stereotypes are instrumentalised to manage our relationship with chatbots” when human behavior is programmed into machines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect

How can we not interact with machines as humans when they are seemingly talking to us? Many of the things people are saying seem to be leaping ahead of the reality that what they are seeing is really approximations of what looks like conversation by [quickly] autocompleting ahead. Of course the references ChatGPT names are not real because it is not doing research, it is just generating something that statistically approximates the appearance of a relevant reference.

This ties to to Maha Bali’s criticism of any reference to starting communicating by “I asked ChatGPT to…” as really an abdication of care not even an automation of it. Because again, what this black box for which we have no intuition or understanding of how it produces words (cue the hypocritical name of the company)– does not automate or even generate care.

It is just generating something that statistically approximates the appearance of care. Humans should know the difference.

My main use of ChatGPT is to… make fun of ChatGPT. Can you help me, Eliza?

ELIZA: Please tell me what’s been bothering you.

YOU:   I just want to make fun of ChatGPT

ELIZA: Do you say you just want to make fun of chatgpt for some special reason ?

YOU:   Yes, because so many people seem to take it seriously.

ELIZA: You are sure.

YOU:   Yes, what do you think?

ELIZA: I see.

YOU:   Do you?

ELIZA: What are your feelings now ?

YOU:   I want to go outside and roll in the snow.

ELIZA: What would getting to go outside and roll in the snow mean to you ?

https://www.masswerk.at/eliza/

Next up on AImocking… who wants to guess?

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Featured Image: Made by me combining in Photoshop a screenshot of Talking Eliza, another screen shot of ChatGPT, text generated at Back to the Future Font Meme, and one of the Stable Diffusion online generated images for “an older woman and a younger bearded man seated at a restaurant table on a date’ photorealistic.” All kinds of re-use grayzone here, but if I can assert a license it is CC BY.