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  1. dkernohan
    July 1, 2013

    Blimey – you got there… and thanks for the write up. Looks like we all need to (a) schedule some time in the week, and (b) put aside a bit of effort to programme something for that slot each week. I’ll be having a go too.. after my new house gains stable wireless :-)

  2. Tim Owens
    July 1, 2013

    This makes a lot of sense. I like that you’ve set up the scheduled blocks so people can grab one and throw content in there. 8 hour blocks may be too much down the road but for now it makes it a more manageable list for people to work from. I’m going to log in and dig around as well.

  3. Alan Levine aka CogDog
    July 1, 2013

    Thanks guys. You can always delete the longer blocks and replace them with other stuff. Frankly, I think it is better to make long scheduled blocks, maybe even 24 hours worth, to make it behave more like auto DJ- the real shows are the “live ones”

    That way there would eb less editing each week to repopulate the content

    This means coming up with some good smart blocks that can pull in a lot of content from the uploaded media.

    There is a weird bug where you cannot add content to an existing block, they only way is to empty it, and then add enough to be more than the block time.

    I should add that the web streams will fill any amount that is less then their default web stream settings (I set some new ones to be 8 hours)

  4. John
    July 1, 2013

    Hi Alan,
    If I understand right you can submit a stream from another station?
    We have a wee ice cast setup at http://edutalk.cc mostly autoDJ from stuff submitted to the podcast plus a live show wed 8pm UK time (on a break till mid August).
    Anyway once I’ve the audoDJ reorganised and programmed a bit (summer task) I wonder if we could share a bit of our stream with DS106?
    We added the ice cast stuff into edutalk after seeing it on DS106. Mostly edutalk is an open to anyone talking about education podcast.

    • Alan Levine aka CogDog
      July 2, 2013

      Yes John. You create a Web Stream item and enter the URL for edutalk. Then you create a schedule item to match the time. The thing is you would have to associate the web stream for each calendar time it appears. And if someone does a life broadcast it would cut off yours. But it would ba a great addition!

  5. Grant
    July 2, 2013

    This is fantastic Alan – thanks so much for the detailed outline of Airtime innards – taking a little screen break over the last few days, but hope to do some programming before the weekend.

    • Alan Levine aka CogDog
      July 2, 2013

      If you want to pow wow I am here. Would like to find a way to generate a live status in the status page. There is something in airtime that checks for master stream on the dashboard.

      And where is the twitter bit?

      • Tim Owens
        July 2, 2013

        Twitter bot is sitting in my hosting account at the moment. Probably makes sense to put it in ds106′s account since we’re all on the same server.

  6. Barbara
    July 9, 2013

    I have been meaning to spend some time this summer wrapping my head (a bit more) about the ideas of audio, streaming-audio-over-the-internets-as-radio, and teaching. Thank you for this post as it reminded me to move that up a bit on my to-do list.

    This semester I was fortunate to have a student – Haley – who was interested in radio and the idea of creating an online radio show as part of a final project for our class. She had experience being a DJ at our college radio station (http://www.wobc.org/) so creating playlists, etc was not new to her. I sent her the directions (thank you, Grant) on how to upload her playlist and schedule it and shazaam! it worked.

    As fun as “live” radio is (I have done that both from the middle of NYC with my trusty iPod Touch and a Verizon mifi, and as well as with your help from my kitchen table, and both were cool), I think that is tough for the novice. So, thinking about my students, I think it would be too anxiety-producing to do it live. But creating a playlist in advance (with narration) and then uploading it? Yep, that could totally happen. That is a wonderful (newish) feature of ds106 radio and I plan to explore it more, both for teaching as well as general language learning and technology explorations.

    In short: This summer I am thinking of ways to weave radio into my language class in an intentional (albeit slow, cuz I am slow) manner. Fear not! …and… Don’t Touch That Dial!

    • Alan Levine aka CogDog
      July 9, 2013

      That’s a fab idea. I really hope we could generate some ideas to use the architecture Grant has built- it is a wide open platform, and only needs the idea to nudge it.

      It could even be simpler than uploading a playlist, we could have people build their own shows over what is already on the server (or what could be pieced together from web streams), and all someone has to do might be to record some intros or bridges in between.

      I agree that putting together some pre-arranged shows could be a nice stepping stone to doing a live shows.

      Keep the ideas coming, we are here to serve Great Ideas

      • Barbara
        July 10, 2013

        So question (see above about me and slow), when you say “build shows over what is already on the server” do you mean taking songs/sounds that are already in the rotation and then repurposing them for one’s one show?

        I am already thinking about audio assignments that I could ask students to create in SoundCloud. The question is then how to get it (easily) from SC to the radio rotation. (with student created audio bumpers interspersed).

        For example,would be awesome if something like this https://soundcloud.com/barbarasawhill/sets/hisp205-lugar-secreto-oberlin could somehow be automatically pushed to the radio when ready to launch.

        Can that happen?

        Happy to keep making ideas/trouble :-)

  7. Rochelle Lockridge
    July 29, 2013

    I’m also interested in learning more about broadcasting on ds106 Radio. Thanks for the write up Alan. I was just talking to someone today about how I need to dig in and figure out what’s involved. Now I have a start.

    • Alan Levine aka CogDog
      July 29, 2013

      That’s cool. I’ve been intending to do a screencast to better demonstrate the process. Well I did one, but the video format came through as no audio in YouTube.

  8. Christina Hendricks
    August 26, 2013

    The uploaded music should be in mp3 format, you say–is that an absolute necessity? If it’s in something else, should I convert (and if so, any suggestions on how?)

    • Alan Levine aka CogDog
      August 26, 2013

      I am not 100% sure, but I think audio needs to be in mp3 or ogg format.

      There are lots of tools for converting audio; http://www.online-convert.com/ is very handy.

      If you are on a Mac, get the ecamm free Movie Tools, there is a drag and drop batch converter to mp3 (as well as to AIFF)

      http://www.ecamm.com/mac/free/

      • John Johnston
        August 27, 2013

        I think you need to get the bitrate right too?
        I know on the icecast server we use for edutalk I managed to mess up by uploading 128kbps when the server streams 64kbps.

      • Christina Hendricks
        August 27, 2013

        Thanks for the info, Alan and John. I didn’t know anything about the bit rate. I uploaded some songs as mp3 and they played in the preview pane; haven’t tested to see if they’ll play on the radio itself. Hoping if play in the preview pane, that’s indicative of all being well.

      • Alan Levine aka CogDog
        August 27, 2013

        You should be fine

      • Alan Levine aka CogDog
        August 27, 2013

        I don’t think that matters for encoding uploads; I’ve upped stuff done at higher than 64.

        But I am one foot in Guess Zone

      • John Johnston
        August 27, 2013

        Guessing myself, depends I guess on what happens to audio before it is streamed.
        The icecast host we uses certainly says make sure your audio is at the same bitrate as your station is streaming, or less. But the ds106 setup looks a lot more powerful on the back end so maybe it does some conversion?

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